tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post4773292802412424915..comments2023-10-26T09:39:43.398-04:00Comments on Eagles Blitz: More on the MoveTommy Lawlorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11785088312640195066noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-36559658130261185252010-04-07T09:10:56.357-04:002010-04-07T09:10:56.357-04:00Was just glancing at the list of people in for vis...Was just glancing at the list of people in for visits and a little disturbed at the lack of LB's on the list. You got me really excited about Sean Lee. Do the Eagles typically bring guys in for visits if they plan to take them high, or do the visits usually solidify who they want mid to late rounds?Nethermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16286221222349418097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-54255799923328278392010-04-07T01:18:19.935-04:002010-04-07T01:18:19.935-04:00Tommy,
With the Eagles bringing in 3 big backs t...Tommy, <br /><br />With the Eagles bringing in 3 big backs the last couple of weeks which one would you prefer of Gerhart, Dwyer, and Charles Scott?So Cal EaglesFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15712190608202116084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-30811512205304576732010-04-06T23:58:45.869-04:002010-04-06T23:58:45.869-04:00One thing I expected and see already...the constan...One thing I expected and see already...the constant baiting by media to get McNabb to bash the Eagles organization. That will drive me crazy. You know the inevitable Dion interview is on the horizon. I had to turn off NFL network when they got to McNabb cam...Rich Eisen was positively disgusting in his transparent attempts to get McNabb to flame the Eagles...people can say what they want, but Reid and McNabb owe a lot to each other...I hope it stays civil.Nethermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16286221222349418097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-24689228936133229952010-04-06T22:41:11.844-04:002010-04-06T22:41:11.844-04:00Edward:
I dunno, I thought McNabb looked kind of ...Edward:<br /><br />I dunno, I thought McNabb looked kind of hopeful and refreshed in that press conference.<br /><br />If I were McNabb, I would honestly be excisted to play for a coach like Mike Shanahan whose system perfectly fits McNabb's skillset.<br /><br />And Washington is a much-needed change of scenery for him, also. They'll be throwing roses at his feet if he even gets them into the playoff <i>discussion</i>.Myronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201745184051579199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-8675917019605934902010-04-06T14:26:50.728-04:002010-04-06T14:26:50.728-04:00hey Tommy, one of the more interesting points I th...hey Tommy, one of the more interesting points I thought you raised in your initial offseason state of the quarterback piece was the extent to which we might have called pass plays specifically designed to get Donovan into a rhythm. If trying to run a WCO with an inconsistent short-range passer meant we needed to throw the ball even more early on to build up his timing (theoretically at least), it should be interesting to see what our take on the WCO looks like in its more 'natural' form. If Kolb's accuracy can be taken comparatively as something of a given, not needing to be built up in-game, do you think this will have much of an affect on our first half play calling? I've got memories of Steve Young and Jerry Rice running the most basic little slants patterns up and down the field and the wonder (the simple threat of) those timing routes could prove for our running game.bphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03221820130488659330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-87604019277255078902010-04-06T12:50:11.843-04:002010-04-06T12:50:11.843-04:00McNabb looked absolutely gutted and depressed duri...McNabb looked absolutely gutted and depressed during his redskins press conference. You can tell he 100% did not want to leave. Felt kind of sorry for him :(Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15022915166237419771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-53776614552128548842010-04-06T12:10:29.841-04:002010-04-06T12:10:29.841-04:00Hey Tommy,
Any idea what is involved in the condit...Hey Tommy,<br />Any idea what is involved in the conditional pick. I have read a few times it is based on playing time, but that's from the EMB, so I have no idea if it is true or not. Either way, any idea on what specifically would be required to get the 3rd?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15243330070600134951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-29042245582152590772010-04-06T10:59:10.954-04:002010-04-06T10:59:10.954-04:00I think the change of scenary is going to do Donov...I think the change of scenary is going to do Donovan good. I think he'll play well in Washington.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18085850538234303845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-90410182282410624982010-04-06T09:51:52.994-04:002010-04-06T09:51:52.994-04:00Also keep in mind, McNabb has only had two full se...Also keep in mind, McNabb has only had two full seasons since 2001<br /><br />2002= Broken Ankle<br />2003= Thumb to start the year, broken rip<br />2004= Concussion in Super Bowl<br />2005= Hernia<br />2006= Torn ACL<br />2007= Recovery from torn ACL + 2 missed games<br />2009= Broken Ribs<br /><br />That's behind what has to be considered a solid Eagles o-line. Yes Washington will run more, but Donovan is going to get hit. Just ask Jason Campbell.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00185845066169722102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-56115564953368026512010-04-06T08:57:54.282-04:002010-04-06T08:57:54.282-04:00I think the value was fine...not great...but fine....I think the value was fine...not great...but fine. In effect, McNabb sorta had a no-trade clause with this being a contract year. We needed to have McNabb's cooperation because no trade partner was going to do this w/out Donovan's blessing.<br />That being said, I don't buy the comparison's to Favre's trade since the drama of Favre v Rodgers was far more problematic than McNabb v Kolb. Also, McNair was a much lesser QB at 32 than McNabb is now.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13475669541197956132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-44981229771598059582010-04-06T08:24:56.161-04:002010-04-06T08:24:56.161-04:00I'm really not concerned about McNabb winning ...I'm really not concerned about McNabb winning a ring in DC. <br /><br />Shanahan calls out players and has NEVER coddled his QBs. How do you think Shanny is going to react when McNabb is on one of his cold streaks and can't hit the side of a barn. His run game doesn't work without being able to hit those simple 3 yard hitches that Donnie struggles with. Shanahan also had Gary Zimmerman and Tom Nalen in Denver with Alex Gibbs coaching. Washington will have gutted this year's draft assuming they get that elite LT so they won't be some powerhouse in 2-3 years either. <br /><br />Honestly, we should think about how good/bad Kolb will be, not Donovan.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00185845066169722102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-27900882119034772572010-04-06T01:47:02.229-04:002010-04-06T01:47:02.229-04:00@Dan,
That's my hunch - the Eagles slow-playe...@Dan,<br /><br />That's my hunch - the Eagles slow-played this and once S.F. and SEA jumped ship, McNabb used the "retire" veto to force a trade to the best interested team... Redskins.<br /><br />We'll never really know what was offered (if anything) but let's keep in mind that the 37th plus a 3rd or 4th next year isn't chump change... it's just not what we were really hoping for.Baloophihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06192541259692148297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-10314889389312145462010-04-06T00:01:41.351-04:002010-04-06T00:01:41.351-04:00If it's true that McNabb essentially refused t...If it's true that McNabb essentially refused trades to BUF or OAK, maybe those other deals weren't really available. <br /><br />I think the compensation is okay, but the final analysis will depend on who we draft with that pick. <br /><br />I also think the Eagles bungled this whole thing by playing coy and waiting to show their hand. I wonder if we could have started a bidding war if we put McNabb up for auction earlier in the offseason and got more teams involved.Danyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889868288773512397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-61420816473449642232010-04-05T23:22:16.856-04:002010-04-05T23:22:16.856-04:00I'm not pleased with our compensation. I had m...I'm not pleased with our compensation. I had my heart set on a high first rounder and Eric Berry.<br /><br />Seriously if Reid took a lesser deal just to help out Mcnabb... I appreciate the gesture but how fair is that to the other players on the roster?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18085850538234303845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-44723865888001251262010-04-05T22:56:00.892-04:002010-04-05T22:56:00.892-04:00While I wanted McNabb back, and I'm not really...While I wanted McNabb back, and I'm not really sure that Kolb will be any good, make no mistake I'm now his biggest fan. He's an Eagle and that's all that matters.<br /><br />I really think the FO doesn't think they have much of a chance to compete this year, because they are so young and they need a year to gel and learn. So they are okay with McNabb in the division. And especially for the very good value they got for him.<br /><br />Regardless, this season should be interested.OtherWhiteMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02821435348118258944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-5980289629889681062010-04-05T22:05:06.080-04:002010-04-05T22:05:06.080-04:00Hey Tommy, guess it's time for some new pics a...Hey Tommy, guess it's time for some new pics at the top of the blog, eh?<br /><br />Also, check this sweet Gang Green shirt: <br />http://www.birdland.bigcartel.com/product/gang-greenDanyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13889868288773512397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-86421074337523717332010-04-05T21:43:32.745-04:002010-04-05T21:43:32.745-04:00@ arby
Enjoy the draft? How? Doesn't matter w...@ arby<br /><br />Enjoy the draft? How? Doesn't matter who we select, the media and fans will crucify Reid and Roseman, and label ________ a bust before the 1st mini-camp. <br /><br />There's a debate over whether or not Reid's offense is predictable and if his play calling is at fault.... FORGET that.... the fans and media are what's predictable. I'll go out on a limb here and say "Vick, QB controversy" is the #1 storylinr heading in to Camp. It never ends.Cliffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03620157295698136927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-23773209204365159362010-04-05T21:36:28.873-04:002010-04-05T21:36:28.873-04:00@Pitmanite - I agree - very good points.
@Cliff -...@Pitmanite - I agree - very good points.<br /><br />@Cliff - Training camp?! Don't you want to enjoy the draft first?<br /><br />@Tommy - I'm much more conscious of the craziness of the whirlwind of trade rumors having been deluded into thinking Vick was worth WAY more than he apparently is. But I would expect that you would be far more discerning about the validity of a rumor given your position as a writer on the team's website, your history of following the draft, etc. In retrospect, do you ever think you have been 'played' by various interests to disseminate a rumor via your site here? Or is it something you just accept as a given that everyone is always playing the media to manipulate perceptions? You really seemed convinced we were getting a high 1st rounder for McNabb.arbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758691795458013487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-29972894553452740702010-04-05T21:13:24.802-04:002010-04-05T21:13:24.802-04:00To touch on Tommy's point about some of he pla...To touch on Tommy's point about some of he players Donnie had when he first came up, it leaves me dumbfounded as to how some people don't appreciate McNabb's career. <br /><br />Look at all of the really good QBs people see today (i.e. P. Manning, D. Brees, Big Ben, B. Favre, P. Rivers, A. Rodgers, etc) and compare the weapons they had to begin their careers, and into their prime, to what Donnie had. I mean C. Johnson, T. Small, J. Thrash, N. Brown, T. Pinkston, F. Mitchell, and G. Lewis were his weapons. Every QB above had at least 1 stud WR and/or a stud TE to help them grow. Even the young guys you see like M. Ryan, J. Flacco and M. Sanchez have teams trying to surround them with weapons to compliment their talent. Andy spent so much of Donnie's first 5 years telling us that "he liked his WRs," even though they were atrocious. Could you imagine if Donnie stepped into the weapons that Kolb is about to step into?! I'm just bringing this up because people a lot of people say it was Donnie who couldn't get us over the hump but for the first 5 years of his career he had garbage, then in the middle there he had some injuries, and as he started to hit the backside of his career Andy turned into a passing mad man more and more after 2004, which didn't suit McNabb's talents <br /><br />Anyway, I myself have complained about Donnie's flaws over the years, but I guess I'm just getting emotional as I realize he's really gone and feel the need to defend him. I'm putting myself on probation from posting for at least a few days because I've been on a tear the last day and a half...even for me. I'm really high on Kolb so for the time being I'm going to sit back and hope for the best as the draft unfolds.Pitmanitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16664301417771480830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-39597023302509778632010-04-05T21:04:41.198-04:002010-04-05T21:04:41.198-04:00@Baloophi
Guess we will have to wait for the McNa...@Baloophi<br /><br />Guess we will have to wait for the McNabb uncencored autobiography to find out.<br /><br />One question I am curious of...why is it so bad to trade within the division? I realize that we made the Redskins potentially better, but we all know McNabb also has his warts, and who knows better how to defend him than a staff that has coached him for over a decade. Does that not offer any advantage?Nethermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16286221222349418097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-78290112270707523842010-04-05T20:37:31.412-04:002010-04-05T20:37:31.412-04:00Is there any truth to the rumor that McNabb threat...Is there any truth to the rumor that McNabb threatened to retire if a trade was worked out with a crappy team? <br /><br />I've been trying to wrap my head around how Reid would turn down a better offer just to "do the right thing" for McNabb. It doesn't hold water for me - here's why. This is the same man who wouldn't shell out the dough to "do the right thing" for Dawkins. Would he suddenly change his philosophy for McNabb? Also, I thought re-structuring his contract last year was doing the right thing for McNabb. It seems to me like a cover story. <br /><br />McNabb threatening to retire in order to sabotage a trade to a wasteland team makes the pieces fit for me. Whether it was a negotiation ploy or not, it would really force the Eagles to either trade him to where he wants to go or get no value for him. Had we put a trade together with Buffalo, St. Louis, or Oakland, McNabb would have the option of retiring, or "retiring" after a year and signing wherever he wanted under the Favre plan. As soon as Seattle and Sanny Franny dropped out the leverage switched over to McNabb. <br /><br />Given all of that, I think choosing to get two picks even at the expense of shipping him to DC is far superior than having Kolb sit another year and then getting no value for McNabb at the end of it.Baloophihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06192541259692148297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-60105006406155337602010-04-05T20:21:23.499-04:002010-04-05T20:21:23.499-04:00I think the Redskins can be successful, but it suc...I think the Redskins can be successful, but it sucks that they don't have a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick this year. I'm sorry Tommy but if the Eagles don't win the Superbowl this year I want the Redskins to. Only to shut up the McNabb bashers in this city.<br /><br />Also who is the better FS prospect, Morgan Burnett or Nate Allen?stvnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13369462151150446006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-11915389393183040302010-04-05T20:18:37.253-04:002010-04-05T20:18:37.253-04:00If you want to reminisce on McNabb, NFL Network re...If you want to reminisce on McNabb, NFL Network replaying Eagles vs Pats Super Bowl right now. We were really close to winning it all. Makes you wonder if today would still have happened if he had brought a championship to Philly. My gut says probably.bthackrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13160885912119127500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-50107797727448363392010-04-05T18:46:22.820-04:002010-04-05T18:46:22.820-04:00I would have taken the better deal. This is where...I would have taken the better deal. This is where Reid's jobs conflict. As the coach, he did the right thing taking care of his player. As the personnel guy, he should get us the best deal possible.<br /><br />The value we got was not bad, so now all we can do is talk about what this pick means in terms of draft preparation.<br /><br />1) We could go big. We could trade up for a coveted player such as maybe Eric Berry, Earl Thomas, Joe Haden, or someone else who may be on our radar.<br /><br />2) We can get a lot, because this draft is deep. We could take Pouncey at 24, McCourty or a Nate Allen type safety where the skins pick, and then we'd have a lot of room to be open with our "real" 2nd round pick.<br /><br />I'm kind of in favor for trading up for a player who we think can make a dynamic impact, not just a very good starter. For a few years I've felt that we need more difference makers on the field. We have the ammo now to make that happen.<br /><br />Tommy- Seems like you may need to do a new 2 round mock draft, but what (in your opinion) should our approach be on draft day and what players would you target in the early 2nd?Ben Hesselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11793604142035415303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4955582067533116261.post-86396647938063505752010-04-05T18:35:04.193-04:002010-04-05T18:35:04.193-04:00@Myron
My father in-law and his son live in Colora...@Myron<br />My father in-law and his son live in Colorado and are huge Broncos fans, so I remember Elway's career well. The McNabb-Elway comparison has been on my mind for the past season. Donovan and Shanahan could end up pulling off a championship. I don't think the Skins have the team this year, but in a year or two they could be powerful. I wish Donnie all the best, but for him to get his ring he has to do the one thing I can't handle, beat the Eagles. <br /><br />As an Eagles fan, this is the 2nd time during Reid's tenure that I don't agree with his decision on qb. I hate to admit it but I wanted Ricky Williams (though I did not boo the McNabb choice). I agree the problem has been with the offense playcalling way more than the qb. Reid may well feel that his career, or at least his reputation, are hanging with the decision to move on to Kolb. I hope this will put a gun to his back and force him to develope an offense that uses Kevin's skills well(and of course has a more balanced run:pass ratio). Regardless of my opinion, Kolb is the new qb and I'll be cheering for him. I hope Reid proves me wrong again. What else can you do?Prem Prakashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15332841826264949864noreply@blogger.com